Sa dagger rzm markings This very good condition mid war period produced SA Dagger is made with nickel-plated fittings throughout. , based in Suhl, Germany. WWII 1933 SA Honor A Late SA dagger without a RZM control number points to my reasoning also. Mark Brandenburg - not used on daggers: Sa: Sachsen - A c. The silver plated cross guards have In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. This SA dagger features the RZM logo and the code A Model 1933 Sturmabteilung Dienstdolch by RZM 7/2 - Emil Voos of Solingen. Eickhorn was a grinder, merchant and manufacturer who descended from a five hundred-year-long steel hardening and grinding The SA daggers were ordered by Hitler for the adherents of National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei (NSDAP) SS daggers had RZM numbers, although many had no markings on the blade. Joined: Nov 2008. Article about: Struggling to find any other markings. 001 The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and ID SA Dagger Markings on crossguard #38441 02/16/2010 12:40 AM. A RZM licence could be bought and by the middle of 1934 there were about 15,000 licensed I would like to have your expert opinions about this SA Dagger. This nice dagger comes with an anodized scabbard which is in pretty good shape with no visible dings, but some spotting. Each district was allotted a two to three letter code, such as WF for Westfalen. , Solingen-Wald) on the blade's ricasso. With the Nazi rise to power in 1933, a dress dagger was introduced In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be eliminated, and replaced with the RZM logo as well as an In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. A. Check out some of them above! In my opinion the codes below are SS contract numbers for manufacturing daggers. The dagger was issued for wear in The scabbard has plated throat and drag fittings that match the handle nicely. They were allocated the FIRST RZM code, so the Offered here is a very choice example of a late production SA dagger by the Robert Klaas firm. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be The Arthur Evertz Herstellung blanker Waffen company began in 1925 by Arthur Evertz. These are the generally accepted marks found on original In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterei der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be eliminated, and replaced with the RZM logo as well as an 2/12/18 - This is an original WW2 production SA Dagger, complete with the original scabbard and hanger. u. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be An extremely well-preserved Model 1933 SA dagger, and materials can be encountered when examining early daggers. 01-01-2025 07:48 PM # ADS. GERMAN WWII SA DAGGER AND SCABBARDGerman WWII SA dagger and scabbard, stamped RZM M7/80 , with hanger, Find prices for RZM SA DAGGER to help when appraising. The contract, in some cases, have been split between 2 or more manufacturers. This is a very nice transitional pattern SA Dagger, made by the very seldom seen firm of Wilhelm Kober & Co. This dagger with an RZM number ,, early logo . This dagger is MINT!! The handle is perfect with no chips. Historical Description: The “Sturmabteilung” (SA), formed in 1921, was the original paramilitary branch of the Nazi party. Gustav Pitzer of Solingen . Where known, I have A lot of dagger collectors collect by manufacturer as there are a select few that are very rare to find. However, it first became available for In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. For In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. 1935 WKC Blank Waffen Aller Art catalog featured multiple variations of: swords and daggers for the Wehrmacht, police and dress bayonets, an HJ knife and forestry cutlasses. On the clip itself, one can find up to 6 different variants (without markings, with DRGM markings, with RZM markings all made of nickel silver or of nickel-plated In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. goldenpheasant. SKU: 50. Mid to late guards will have less hallow accent grooving on the guards and the dagger you posted In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Seems like an original to me but always want the experts to weigh in. MODEL 1936 SA Dagger E. There is a very minor finger smudge on one side near the bottom. RZM code is for SA dagger. This the This SA (“Brown Shirts”) dagger also boasts the uncommon feature of having dual maker’s marks: the blade bears both the squirrel logo of Carl Eickhorn and also the RZM M7/66 logo The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger in the second half of 1933. NSKK #51250 NSKK Dagger With Marine Finish By August Bickel. and published an authoritative colour chart for textiles. M7/1 Gebrüder Christians, Christianswerk, Solingen M7/2 Emil Voos Waffenfabrik, Solingen M7/3 Kuno Ritter, Solingen-Grafrath M7/4 August Müller KG. Regards Larry Posted By: Dave Re: SA Dagger, no RZM In all my years of collector I only SA Dagger [Middle Version] with Hanger by RZM M7/66 (Carl Eickhorn Solingen) National Rifle Association Cutlass by Original Eickhorn Solingen. The fit to the upper The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger but had to be ordered through official channels that were controlled by the RZM the crossguard. The maker is the most interesting factor: Gebrüder Christians, Christianswerk, Solingen. or no logos at all has a severe value depreciation and The tag has the RZM markings and "169586" serial number on one side, and the SA logo, nomenclature and a faint merchant mark on the reverse. SA Daggar RZM Code M7/30. The Luftwaffe Dagger, a type of dagger used by the German air force in World War II, had a unique design featuring a straight, double-edged blade and a Physical Description and Item Details. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be SA & NSKK Daggers SA When daggers are found with parts and markings that seem to contract time periods, usually they are called "transitional". However, it first became available for I dont see any issues with the blade or the RZM logo but those guards are not what is common on a mid to late Klaas type. SA Gruppe “W” – Feldhernhalle does appear in the same SA district as “Ho”- Hochland as Munich is within this district which includes the WW2 German SA Dagger. Blade in good condition with the typical in-and-out marks. the SS Dagger is harder to tell (not the best photos), but I don't like the markings (RZM mark), don't like the fit of A decent piece at a great price! The dark acid etched "Alles fur Deutschland" motto and "RZM M7/51? maker mark are both beautifully executed! The fit is nice and tight and the tip comes to The SA Standard Service Dagger was The RZM made many subtle changes to the dagger design and all items the organisation approved were stamped with an RZM logo. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be eliminated, and replaced with the RZM logo as well as an A nice piece! The blade on this piece looks great! The crossgrain shines wonderfully against the light, the tip and fit are both perfect and the dark acid etched 'Alles fur Deutchland' motto and In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Circuit advertisement Join Date Always Location Advertising world P Very nice WW2 German SA Dagger RZM 7/36 ( E. . A. Horster). F. I was windering if anyone could help ID these It replaced the SA-Wirtschaftsstelle, the purchasing agency of the Sturmabteilung. Nrh stamp found on crossguard. Several combinations of SS symbol, and maker's mark are shown below. This I just picked up this SMF dagger of the SA variety. It would be impossible to accurately describe Third Reich dagger construction practices and variations in one web page. Only early daggers were group marked Factory produced examples will normally have RZM markings as well as the standard stamping indicated above. SA Transitional RZM codes can be seen HERE! And SS RZM codes can be seen HERE! Visit us In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. H the buckle has 'RZM' markings, super tiny ones. The crossguards and tang nut are made ID SA Dagger Markings on crossguard #38441 02/16/2010 12:40 AM. Below is list of ss markings. The Dagger has the RZM Code on the blade: RZM M7/13 (Arthur Schüttelhöfer ASSO, WW2 German Transitional SA Dagger - J. The blade has some light spotting, and a few areas of patina, but That dagger sold within 30 minutes of acquisition. This is a text book original transitional SA Dagger, manufactured in 1938. The list is not all but regarding Eickhorn yes. Characteristics of Third Reich SA/SS/NSKK Style Daggers. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be There are also NO RZM period made SA marine daggers. Not all makers placed their trademark on RZM daggers, and the maker's marks were dropped by These RZM and/or special SS RZM codes appear on daggers made starting in 1934. 02. 01. The A Late SA dagger without a RZM control number points to my reasoning also. A couple of interesting things about this one 1. Espenlaub Militaria. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be Very nice WW2 German SA Dagger sent in by a customer. threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum SA Dagger, no RZM or maker mark? Forums Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began standardizing the production of SA daggers. If you need An RZM NSKK Dagger, maker marked M 7/13 (Arthur Schuttelhofer & Co. SMGM-3813 Late Period RZM After 1935 the dagger could be purchased from RZM approved outlets rather than through the SA Gruppe HQ. Last edited by Siegfried B; In all my years of collector I only saw a copy of The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger in the second half of 1933. However, it first became available for purchase in early 1934. this dagger comes with the Dagger One can find any combination on these SA hangers. These are the From what we found, there were 82 original makers under the RZM code as of 1938. 04. RZM M7 / 118 - Opinions ? Display your In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterei der NSDAP (RZM) organization standardized SA dagger production, replacing commercial manufacturer markings with the RZM logo and codes. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be There are no known "Nw" gruppe markings to exist on SA daggers. Some The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger but had to be ordered through official channels that were Original Third Reich SA Dagger By Sudd Messerfabrik With Three Piece though it may benefit from some conditioning. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be The crossguard stamp "Mi" is usually found on an SA dagger, but a very few SS daggers in chained scabbards are found with guards stamped with SA Gau and are The blade shows the grinding markings. The total length is 37. They replaced commercial manufacturer markings with the RZM logo and The blade is the best feature on this piece! The crossgrain is beautiful, running the full length of the blade all the way from the hilt to tip! The tip comes to a perfect point and the fit is nice and Maker Marks - SA Daggers Maker Marks - SS Daggers SA/NSKK/SS Group Marks SA/SS Rohm Dagger Makers SA/HJ RZM Codes SA Transitional RZM Codes SS RZM Codes SS Factory produced examples will normally have RZM markings as well as the standard stamping indicated above. To date, this is an Classic RZM-Marked SA Dagger from Robert Klaas of Solingen (Item SADAG 1-20) DESCRIPTION: Here is a really superior SA dagger that bears the "RZM" marking "M7/37"; this code narrows this one to having been produced by the daggers and swords (edge weapons) rzm codes This photo is an example of how the blade of an SA dagger has been marked with the RZM number. Evertz received its RZM license on June 4, 1938, yet did not register in Solingen until August 4, . The official order RZM Marks RZM codes appear on edged weapons produced for the NSDAP starting in 1934. The blade is nearly 100% mint, there are ID SA Dagger Markings on crossguard #38441 02/16/2010 12:40 AM. The 1935 RZM Handbuch, places the company at UBB. The handle is perfect with no chips or scratches. This dagger is near mint!! The handle is beautiful and would be perfect except for a small crack on the right side A quick note on tang markings: has A 17 and the other A 20. The second type of RZM numbers found on SS daggers is a code that runs from RZM 15 through to 1317. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be SA dagger hilt markings WWII SA DAGGER RZM M7/13 - Both the blade and the hanger are RZM stamped. On most SA daggers, Here is a list of these markings for reference: Code SA Group A Alpenland . Pat "Anodizing" is a process used to color aluminum and has nothing to do In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. I was windering if anyone could help ID these I was wondering if there are daggers without these one letter markings on crossguard, not particularly Nothing wrong with unmarked lower guards but most commonly on SA Dagger [Early Version] by Gustav Spitzer Solingen. W. In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. I have seen ones in lesser condition on WW2 German SA Dagger marked RZM 7/19 1938 which is from the maker Eduard Wusthof Dreizackwerk. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be Offered here is an incredible example of a later production RZM SA dagger by Eickhorn. Solingen manufacturers including; Carl Below are the trademarks and variations of all the known makers of early SA/NSKK daggers produced in the 1933-1936 time frame. 3 cm. The dagger Good evening all, this is an sa dagger I have been given, I know absolutely nothing about it, it has a fully chromed scabbard and hopefully the photos will show details of condition SA Dagger (Item SA 9-2). Thicker Blades; Higher Ricasso; RZM The Röhm dagger is identical to the standard SA Service Dagger, except it features the acid-etched dedication, ‘In herzlicher Kameradschaft These daggers were introduced prior to the institution of the RZM and as such, do Allgemeine SS M33 Early Pre-RZM Mark Service Dagger. u. ’ The blade is much better than average. The blade on this one has some age, evidence it's been cleaned as well as some water dot stains. SA marked RZM M7/13. The pommel had a As I know and from collector the markings is OK. Posts: 18. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be 2) Herder SA Dagger, with both the commercial and RZM (M7/18/1939) markings on the reverse. I was windering if anyone could help ID these Original Item: Only One Available. & S - 6 - Annodized scabbard. WWII GERMAN SA DAGGER: M7 / 42 factory markings with clear motto on 8 3/4'' blade. Then next we have the same Below is a compilation of Dagger producers and their Gruppe mark designation to help identify the districts that the “Early” SA dagger was distributed to. , Solingen SADAGGERS #51732 Mid-period SA Dagger by Robert Klaas (RZM M7/37) This dagger is in nice overall condition, coming from the mid-period time of maybe 1937 or 1938. This dagger This SA [Sturmabteilung] Dagger in EXC+ condition. Credit: IMCS Militaria. As a result, the SA Gruppe HQ inspection stamps disappeared and were replaced by the RZM logo and makers code number SA dagger collecting is a fascinating hobby however is can be with a small single digit number; this is called a bench number and denotes who originally assembled the dagger. The dagger Allgemeine SS M33 Early Pre-RZM Mark Service Dagger. Again the tangs have the same markings as the black on black and add to it the unmarked tang! Scabbards are just like the standard SA 33-style dagger with brown oxide The "SA" Dagger is virtually identical to the "NSKK" as were all Nazi political daggers (such as SA, SS, Youth, etc. This This dagger will probably be making the trip to the SOS(again) in the hopes of clearing things up. The suspension ring retains an original brown leather hanger, which is very well marked, with RZM markings The RZM marked Dress Dagger for a Stormtrooper is in good condition and has the makers stamp on the blade which is M/80 . WWII GERMAN SA DAGGER - HAENEL Motto with Maker Mark and RZM designation; Motto with RZM designation; No Motto with Maker Mark and RZM designation; Late Period 1938-1942. Do we have here a nice and genuine one ? Or a Help; Remember Me SA Dienstdolch - Jacobs Solingen. Lots of SA daggers seem to RZM M7/83 was a manuafacure code assigned by by the NSDAP RZM office (quality and control) assigned to makers of SS and SA daggers, mostly from the town of In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be eliminated Struggling to find any other markings. Luftwaffe Dagger. With a regulation pattern brown In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Henckels RZM M7-10 1938. The blade is maker stamped RZM M7/10 with a 1941 date. I would have preferred finding an SA with this mark and all others with this marking, as some tang marks occur on more than In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. A triangular paper tag is wrapped around the grip, with the number "047209" and RZM On most SA daggers, Here is a list of these markings for reference: Code SA Group A Alpenland . Last edited by Siegfried B; In all my years of collector I only saw a copy of Maker marks continued to be used on Army, Navy and Luftwaffe edged weapons until blade production ceased in 1941 (swords) and 1942 (daggers). This dagger is in beautiful condition. P. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be Between 1934 and 1938, 82 numbers had been issued for dagger manufacturers. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. These codes always > SA and NSKK Daggers (1) Röhm Daggers (4) Early Daggers (1) Transitional Daggers (2) RZM Daggers > SS Daggers (1) Type II Chained SS Dagger (1) RZM SS Daggers > Swords (1) SS/RZM Codes These RZM and/or special SS RZM codes appear on daggers made starting in 1934. It has the ‘RZM’ mark on the blade with ‘7/66 1942. It is not uncommon to find SA marks on daggers with period repainted NSKK scabbards. F. By early 1938, RZM codes had been assigned to 82 manufacturers but 34 RZM codes had been Find prices for SA DAGGER to help when appraising. The following is a list of known edged In 1933 Hitler commissioned Professor Woenne of the Solingen School of Commerce to design an edged weapon for dress wear by the SA and SA reserve. RZM SS Dagger by Robert Klaas - Measuring 371 mm in length with the scabbard on, this SS Dagger is engraved "Meine Ehre In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. The cross guards are clean and do not have any There are no known "Nw" gruppe markings to exist on SA daggers. Wooden handle with an eagle and the SA roundel. Blade marker marked RZM M7/36 (for the marker of E. The scabbard is In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. Horster) on one side and with acid etched “Alles für Deutschland” motto on other side of blade. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be Some daggers feature district markings on the handguard which indicate where the dagger was purchased. Evertz was the brother-in-law of Paul Seilheimer. 001 The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger in the second The first of which is that for example some early period manufacture SS daggers have only RZM markings. Other Dagger RZM Codes. Typically late production RZM daggers are not in the best of condition, as the manufacturers used poorer quality materials. Regards Larry. Regards Vedran Last edited by Rancid66; 11-28-2012 at 10:16 PM. GOR. I came across this today. The cross guards are mint as well. The letter "K" has been carved on the bak of the handle. biz 2 RZM Marks This is a list of the RZM codes for the most commonly-collected Third Reich items – badges (M1), buckles (M4), uniform fittings (M5), In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. SS Dagger - In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. In October of 1934, the RZM was instituted to regulate items The SA Dagger appears original (but really bad condition). Hitler Youth Knife [Late-period] by M7/80 (Gustav Spitzer Solingen) Army Officer’s Dagger by Gustav Spitzer Solingen. The high quality steel blade is etched with the SA motto, "Alles for Deutschland", and usually In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. TeNo Officer’s The Carl Eickhorn Waffenfabrik / Stahlwarenfabrik company was founded in 1865 by Carl Eickhorn (1833-89). I really do dislike to use the term “mint”, however I think it is appropriate when I say this is a “minty” example. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be 1. Emerged , March 1938 B Berlin-Brandenburg BO Bayerische Ostmark This is an excellent RZM example that may just be right for your collection! The blade on this one is excellent! The dark and crisp acid etched "Alles für Deutschland" motto and "RZM M7/33 These marks normally appear on the reverse lower crossguard of pre-RZM daggers. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be ID SA Dagger Markings on crossguard #38441 02/16/2010 12:40 AM. Horster. Emerged , March 1938 B Berlin-Brandenburg BO Bayerische Ostmark Just bought 4 dagger blades. Wood handle with emblem and SA. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be The SA Standard Service Dagger was The RZM made many subtle changes to the dagger design and all items the organisation approved were stamped with an RZM logo. SA Gruppe “W” – Feldhernhalle does appear in the same SA district as “Ho”- Hochland as Munich is within In 1936, the Reichszeugmeisterie der NSDAP (RZM) organization began to standardize the manufacture of the SA dagger. And as William pointed out more appropriately (IMO) to me it makes The first model of the SS Service Dagger was designed and approved alongside the very similar SA dagger in the second half of 1933. Several combinations of RZM code, special SS RZM code, date, RZM symbol, SS symbol, and maker's mark are shown below. The The light brown hardwood grip looks great and the grip to crossguard fit is perfect! This is a spectacular example of an RZM pattern SA dagger. In this case the RZM indicates that the Near mint WW2 German SA Dagger marked with the RZM Code lf 7/36 by E. DESCRIPTION: Here is a very fine example of an ‘RZM’-issue dagger. Model 1939-1942. As is common with early hanger sets, there are no visible markings. This German SA Dagger has the RZM markings of M7/33 1941 which means this SA Dagger was made by F. The screws are all present and tight. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be MINT, MINT, MINT!! WW2 German SA Dagger marked RZM 7/85 by Arthur Evertz. 1. But both my Jacobs have the circle "A" as well, one with 22 and the other with 23. These RZM code refer to a SS contract numbers, not a company. A complete list of German WWII Model 1933 SA Dress Dagger (Sturmabteilung Dienstdolch) maker/manufacture marks and RZM M7/ codes. The photos include a portion of the lower crossguard so that Maker trademarks and RZM codes appear together on SA daggers starting in 1934. The key feature of this dagger is the blade and its condition. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be There were 30 different territorial SA groups but only 23 of them marked the bottom cross guards (Gau markings) of their daggers. I was windering if anyone could help ID these This is a late period RZM M7/36 SA Dagger in untouched condition, ready to display! The nice brown wood grip shows only modest use wear and no cracks or chips. These excellent repros are the best in 20 years, with high quality details! Genuine wood grips feature nicely detailed silver eagles & SA rune button. Commercial type manufacturer markings were to be eliminated and replaced with the RZM logo, as well as an RZM Codes www. The cross SA motto is deep and crisp. ) - with the circular logo containing "RZM" Reichzeugmeistereider (National Material Control Office). It has a Original Item: Only One Available. 11 Excellent WW2 German SA Dagger by Arthur Evertz marked RZM 7/85. 199,00 EUR - 33%. All four are from a different maker; need some help - can anyone tell me if these makers are the usual ones or is there a rare maker present within A Late SA dagger without a RZM control number points to my reasoning also. dwf xlxub kkin tzlvelti mnrzhm gnfkaey wwx eqo wzkyyc kax